<FONT size=4><FONT color=#ff0000><EM>&nbsp;</EM>忘 掉</FONT> <EM>”六四”疮疤之时,便是祖国真正昌盛之日.</EM></FONT>

<FONT size=4><FONT color=#ff0000><EM>&nbsp;</EM>忘 掉</FONT> <EM>”六四”疮疤之时,便是祖国真正昌盛之日.</EM></FONT>

<P><EM>“错的就是错的.不能因为今天做对了就能抵销昨天的过错.”</EM></P> <P>赞同！</P> <P><EM>“揭去”六四”疮疤之时,便是祖国真正昌盛之日.”</EM></P> <P>那倒不一定。平反与否要看当时的政治环境以及执政者的政治需要。<BR></P>

<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: simsun; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: -webkit-monospace; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">重新阅读此文。使用许多草人逻辑。可能削弱其价值。</span><br></span>

LOVE you, 19楼

<P>AGREE very much</P> <P>stop these crap, 64 is DIF from 54</P>

<span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: simsun; font-size: 16px; line-height: 22px; "><font face="Times New Roman"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">”</span></font><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: 宋体; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">六四</span></span><font face="Times New Roman"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">”</span></font><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family: 宋体; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: simsun; line-height: 20px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">也许</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">是<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: -webkit-monospace; line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">个</span>&#160;Necessary Evil。&#160;</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">平反昭雪</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">或许</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: -webkit-monospace; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: simsun; line-height: 20px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">是</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">个</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">空想</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: simsun; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; ">。</span></span></span></span>

少有的好文章，理义情俱全。中国鬼子值得改名为＂中国魂＂。看到最近美国之音在北京采访鲍彤，以及刚出版的赵紫阳日记（Prisoner of the State: The Secret Journal of Premier Zhao Ziyang), 我觉得六四平反之日可能为期不远，希望十年之内，但不应该超过二十年。有良知的中国人很多，包括中共最高层人物。实际上大屠杀之后，邓大人明显苍老了许多，据说他再也不愿别人提起此事。阿保

<P>六四, 我在长安街上,</P> <P>我看到过,</P> <P>我愤怒过,</P> <P>我抗争过,</P> <P>后来我开始思考...</P> <P>原来中国有自己的路通向民主和富强!</P>

<P>For 89-6.4, this is a very good article, I like it. Thank you for such a good one. </P> <P>But for Bush, I do not agree completely. I hope you'll watch this video:</P> <P><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 13px arial; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; orphans: 2; widows: 2; webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; webkit-text-stroke-width: 0">http://www.pjtv.com/video/Klavan_on_culture/_Why_Are_Conservatives_So_Mean%3F/1949/</SPAN></P>

<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: simsun; line-height: 20px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">历史还有是</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">眼睛</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">大的</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">看</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">出来的...</span></span>

历史还有是嘴吧大的喊出来的...

<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: simsun; line-height: 20px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">中国</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: '-webkit-monospace'; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: simsun; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">没有</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">鬼子</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">，</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: '-webkit-monospace'; line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">但</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: simsun; line-height: 20px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: -webkit-monospace; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">太多</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">在美国</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: simsun; line-height: 20px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: '-webkit-monospace'; line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: simsun; line-height: 20px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">。历史</span><font><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">是写出来的</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: -webkit-monospace; line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: simsun; line-height: 20px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: -webkit-monospace; line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: simsun; line-height: 20px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">，是</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: -webkit-monospace; line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">人</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">写出来</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: simsun; line-height: 20px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">的</span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">，是</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: -webkit-monospace; line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: simsun; line-height: 20px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">“</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">胜利者</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">”写出来</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: simsun; line-height: 20px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">的。</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: -webkit-monospace; line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">人们</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">也许</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: -webkit-monospace; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">永远不会知道真相</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: simsun; line-height: 20px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">。历史</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">历来是</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: -webkit-monospace; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">这样延续</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: simsun; line-height: 20px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">的。</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></font></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div></span></span></span></span>

<P>假设中国89民主了, 请教各位推演一下中国发展, 其结果是比今天更好, 和今天一样好, 和苏联一样糟, 比苏联更糟. </P> <P>中国东南的那个小岛, 几千万华人民主了, 可那个折腾法, 89年的大陆是否经受的起?</P> <P><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">"揭去</SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman">”</FONT><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">六四</SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman">”</FONT><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">疮疤之时</SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">便是祖国真正昌盛之日"这个命题成立吗?</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">我前面的问题是希望大家思考.下面只想表一个态.</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">民主不是祖国富强的充分条件,但祖国富强必将更加民主.小学的因果关系,不要搞错,否则还要付出血的代价!</SPAN></P> <P>&nbsp;</P>

<P><FONT size=3><FONT face=宋体>"史从来都不是唱出来的</FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">也不是写出来的</SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">是做出来的</SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman">.</FONT><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">有人活着就一定会有人有所作为</SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman">."</FONT></FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>客观理性，顶~</FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>--林间青竹</FONT></P>

<FONT lang=ZH-CN face="MS Song"> <P>谢谢这篇客观，公正，心平气和的文章。老一代留学生的真知灼见！</P></FONT> <P>--<FONT lang=ZH-CN face="MS Song">老棕熊</P></FONT>

<P>中国鬼子：</P> <P>你对于“六四”的认识理性、客观，很有说服力。</P> <P>“六四”是中华民族伟大复兴过程中的一个重大历史事件，终将得到公正的评价，人民的呼声终将得到尊重。</P> <P>我亦曾亲眼目睹了“六四”的过程，我坚信能看到对“六四”重新评价的那一天，因为国家在进步，党也在变革，社会的民主意识在逐渐增强。</P> <P>任何转变需要过程，网上争吵的双方应该最有体会，一件身边发生的鸡毛蒜皮的小事，脸红脖子粗的吵上三天，不见得有结果，有谁让过步？认过错？何况一个牵动整个社会的重大事件。三十年的预测比较准确，再乐观点，大概二十年也有可能。</P> <P>&nbsp;</P> <P>牧童</P> <P>&nbsp;</P>

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<P><STRONG>中国鬼子，</STRONG></P> <P><STRONG>您的文章令我震撼，语言之理性，态度之中肯，道理之明了，分析之客观，令我佩服。</STRONG></P> <P><STRONG>之前168论坛上关于六四的争论，相比较这篇文章，都过于偏激了。极端的话语并不能说服任何人。无论我们在此怎样争辩对与错，历史是不能改变的，它<FONT color=#ff0000>“不是唱出来的,也不是写出来的，是做出来的。"</FONT></STRONG></P> <P><FONT color=#ff0000><BR></FONT><STRONG>既然是做过的，我们就不能否认它的存在。是事实，就不容改变。是错误，就不得不承认。假如我们连接受事实，承认错误的勇气都没有，那我们就是有愧于人民，有愧于这个伟大的时代。</STRONG></P> <P><STRONG>是错误，就会有人出来纠正，还历史以真面目。我们拭目以待，期待着这一天的来临，相信不会太久，冬天都过去了，春天还会太远吗？</STRONG></P> <P><STRONG>然而，我们不能因为这个错误，而否认整个国家，整个政党。我们已经看到今天的中国，已不是东亚病夫的代名词，它在世界上已是独领风骚，我们海外游子因此而自豪，而腰杆挺直，我们同样期待着，未来新一代的领导人，更加英明，有智慧，能够有勇气承认错误，还历史以本来颜色，</STRONG></P> <P><STRONG>非常感谢中国鬼子，能够以非常公正，公平的笔触，来评判六四，也希望您能好好活着，看到六四平反昭雪的那一天。</STRONG></P> <P><STRONG>--白玫瑰敬上</STRONG></P> <P>&nbsp;</P>